Patrick Abbott recently approached me to learn more about my book, A Spiritual Biography of the Flying Saucer, which I am now pitching. We covered a whole lot of topics and had a great conversation. The podcast audio is free. The video is available for premium subscribers only. Apologies for my audio issues at the beginning.
Errata: I accidentally and hilariously referred to Close Encounters of the First Kind by Stephen King, which is not an actual movie.
You can check out Patrick’s Substack here.
