Well, I can name a dozen or more female led action movies, ranging from variants of Alien and Charlie’s Angels, to Kill Bill, Resident Evil, Hunger Hames, Everything Everywhere All at Once, Tomb Raider, even Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. Off the top of my head. Oh, and Faster Pussycat Kill Kill. Even Ilsa She-Wolf of the SS could be considered Female Action. (I have to admit I went to art-house cinema regularly in LA for the entire decade of the 80’s)
You may be inadvertently confusing crappy movies with Female Action movies.
If having a crappy movie eliminated a genre I’m happy to walk through the universe of mind-numbingly crappy male action films going back to black and white and silents.
Why do you think women dislike action films involving women, since it’s a demonstrably false premise?
Literally did not say women dislike action films involving women. Especially mentioned Atomic Blonde. The premise of your question is false.
In the aggregate (because that is how movies make money), men tend to choose the action flicks and take their girlfriends/wives. This is verified by Nielsen.
Yes, I said movies and you said franchise. However you’re still factually incorrect.
“Perhaps Markel lives in a different universe than I do. On the planet Earth in the universe where I live, no there exists zero global appetite for female-driven action franchises because men are the primary audience for action films.”
Is a franchise a genre or a name stream. Charle’s Angels existed for 5 years and 115 episodes. It was a three entry movie franchise.
I don’t track Resident Alien or other similar long-running movies series. Alien, Hunger Games, and other franchises exist and make plenty of money.
You’re saying women don’t enjoy Hunger Games or Alien? Sigourney Weaver slamming an alien “Get away from her you bitch?” Didn’t find Charlie’s Angels badass? I didn’t hear many women look to Sarah Conner? Of course they did - and they weren’t just crappy “me too” movies.
“Miss Congeniality” is precisely a female-led action / comedy series which appealed to women and men.
I’m totally lost.
Thesis is:
No women like actions films with women? False
Only women like action films with women? False
Only men like action films with women? False.
Exactly zero? No.
At the film, at the simple sequel level, false.
At the franchise level, false.
Your verbatim message was “Global Zero Appetite”.
It’s false.
There plenty of appetite for good action movies with both men and women leads, to both men and women.
I think you’re objecting to female-only reboots perhaps?
Reboots are generally bad IMHO, how many Spider-Man reboots are there - lost count. The Mummy? Fantastic Four? Robocop? Total Recall? Those were male-led reboots. Performed badly.
Mad Max: Fury Road - did well, Furiosa was lead. Both men and women.
Ocean’s 8 - reboot with women did well w/men and women.
Prometheus/Alien latest reinvention - female led. $400M. Did fine.
I can extend the sample set, but the most extensive action/horror franchise I can think of was female led and popular with men and women up until when the heroine was in her 60’s - “Halloween”, Laura Strode and Jamie Lee Curtis.
I don’t even know how many Resident Evils there are - 5? 10?
And Laura Crofts. You’re going to tell me men like them: yep. And women. Big female fan base.
Compare that with the last Matrix entry, with he of the perpetual stern look acting style Keanu - well.
Well, I can name a dozen or more female led action movies, ranging from variants of Alien and Charlie’s Angels, to Kill Bill, Resident Evil, Hunger Hames, Everything Everywhere All at Once, Tomb Raider, even Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. Off the top of my head. Oh, and Faster Pussycat Kill Kill. Even Ilsa She-Wolf of the SS could be considered Female Action. (I have to admit I went to art-house cinema regularly in LA for the entire decade of the 80’s)
You may be inadvertently confusing crappy movies with Female Action movies.
If having a crappy movie eliminated a genre I’m happy to walk through the universe of mind-numbingly crappy male action films going back to black and white and silents.
Why do you think women dislike action films involving women, since it’s a demonstrably false premise?
Literally did not say women dislike action films involving women. Especially mentioned Atomic Blonde. The premise of your question is false.
In the aggregate (because that is how movies make money), men tend to choose the action flicks and take their girlfriends/wives. This is verified by Nielsen.
Yes, I said movies and you said franchise. However you’re still factually incorrect.
“Perhaps Markel lives in a different universe than I do. On the planet Earth in the universe where I live, no there exists zero global appetite for female-driven action franchises because men are the primary audience for action films.”
Is a franchise a genre or a name stream. Charle’s Angels existed for 5 years and 115 episodes. It was a three entry movie franchise.
I don’t track Resident Alien or other similar long-running movies series. Alien, Hunger Games, and other franchises exist and make plenty of money.
Charlie's Angels appealed to men. Both the TV show and the films that succeeded. https://blog.taste.io/why-a-post-metoo-charlies-angels-failed-to-connect-with-audiences-262f26f035d3
See also: https://www.polyesterzine.com/features/charlies-angels
“Zero Global Appetite”. Charlie’s Angels, Hunger Games, Alien, etc ≠ “Zero Global Appetite”
q.e.d.
All appealed to men.
And women.
They’re not mutually exclusive categories.
What are you trying to say?
I’m lost.
You’re saying women don’t enjoy Hunger Games or Alien? Sigourney Weaver slamming an alien “Get away from her you bitch?” Didn’t find Charlie’s Angels badass? I didn’t hear many women look to Sarah Conner? Of course they did - and they weren’t just crappy “me too” movies.
“Miss Congeniality” is precisely a female-led action / comedy series which appealed to women and men.
I’m totally lost.
Thesis is:
No women like actions films with women? False
Only women like action films with women? False
Only men like action films with women? False.
Exactly zero? No.
At the film, at the simple sequel level, false.
At the franchise level, false.
Your verbatim message was “Global Zero Appetite”.
It’s false.
There plenty of appetite for good action movies with both men and women leads, to both men and women.
I think you’re objecting to female-only reboots perhaps?
Reboots are generally bad IMHO, how many Spider-Man reboots are there - lost count. The Mummy? Fantastic Four? Robocop? Total Recall? Those were male-led reboots. Performed badly.
Mad Max: Fury Road - did well, Furiosa was lead. Both men and women.
Ocean’s 8 - reboot with women did well w/men and women.
Prometheus/Alien latest reinvention - female led. $400M. Did fine.
I can extend the sample set, but the most extensive action/horror franchise I can think of was female led and popular with men and women up until when the heroine was in her 60’s - “Halloween”, Laura Strode and Jamie Lee Curtis.
I don’t even know how many Resident Evils there are - 5? 10?
And Laura Crofts. You’re going to tell me men like them: yep. And women. Big female fan base.
Compare that with the last Matrix entry, with he of the perpetual stern look acting style Keanu - well.
As I said, I’m lost what the thesis is.