OWS, You Really Don’t Want to Do This

By Emilia 1956

Last Tuesday, during his speech at a local high school in New Hampshire, the President inadvertantly encountered members of the Occupy Wall Street movement, who used their human mic as a means of heckling him. Watch:-

You have to assume that the people in that audience attended this event in support of the President, that most – if not all – of the local people attending this were Democrats. Their reaction to the chanting protest of the Occupy people tells me that, whilst liberal, ordinary and small town America might sympathise with some of the stated concerns of Occupy Wall Street (namely income inequality), they are not overly enamoured when the protesters pull stunts like this.

First of all, you’re barking up the wrong tree when you assail a President like this – chiefly, a President who, within the constraints of a particularly obstreperous Congress, is working for your interests and your benefits – far more the only admitted political hero of the Occupiers, Ron Paul. Paul might legalise pot and bring the troops home, but he won’t lift a government finger to help you when you OD on something nasty or when the Army discharges you and you’re homeless. If you’re hit by a natural disaster, you’d better have insurance. If you’re a woman, get used to practicing celebacy because birth control and right to choose will be a thing of the past. And then, there’s the little matter of “property rights …”

These people need to realise that a lot of what they want changed can only come through legislation, unless they want to cast off this form of government to one more dictatorial in nature. Many of these protesters are piping the meme that voting is of no use whatsoever, that it accomplishes nothing, that both political parties are the same.

I say … wake up and smell the bullshit being served you by your “iconic voice,” Michael Moore. Most of these people were probably too young to remember or maybe they’re choosing to forget that Moore propagated that tripe in 2000, and look what it achieved.

Quite frankly, if OWS thinks to target Obama with protests, they may as well become card-carrying Republicans now, because it’s the Republican party behaviour like that aids and abets. That’s what the GOP wants.

If you have to protest politicians, target Congress or, specifically, your Congressman or Senator. Voting is the real way to make your concerns known and to effect change.

If you think, as well, you’re emulating some romantic notion of the protests which occurred in 1968 – the ones being spun has having “brought down a President,” then think again. Lyndon Johnson chose not to run, and the people you’re trying to channel turned on Hubert Humphrey, arguably the most liberal and populist Democratic candidate since the second World War. Humphrey really was for the 99%. He was part of that dynamic.

But the protest movement turned on him. Within five years, their successors were turning on the unions and the Southern and Midwestern working classes. It was the beginning of everything you see now – political movement to the Right, the depiction of anyone no the Left as idealogical, weak on defense, weak on crime and – in the case of their patron saint, Gary Hart, morally weak, also.

The protest movement of the 1960s was instrumental in creating Nixonland, Watergate, Reaganomics, Trickledown and George W Bush. Believe me, what OWS’s naive protest of Democratic events will unleash a whole generation of rabid Republicans, who will make Nixon and Reagan look like babes in the woods.

If nothing else, let the reaction of yesterday’s audience, who ultimately drowned you out, tell you one thing you need to know: this President is not your enemy.

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  • Akeough37

    These protesters were not “heckling” the president, they were trying to get him to pay attention and do something about their first amendment rights being trampled on and police brutality that is occurring during the occupy protests around the country. as much as I support him, he needs to take charge and speak up about this. Its wrong! It would benefit him to do so politically and morally. 

  • http://ethecofem.com April

    I don’t understand why anyone would continue to try and convince anyone that Obama is worthy of having OWS support.  OWS is adamantly opposed to the military industrial complex and corporate influence in politics, both of which Obama participates in and benefits from.

    I, for one, am absolutely finished playing the “lesser of two evils” game.  That’s not how it’s supposed to work.

  • Marabout40

    the word is “obstreperous.” not that word in the article.

  • http://3chicspolitico.com/ SouthernGirl2

    Yes they were heckling the President. They’re ASSinine ass clowns! Do you remember the Skip Gates issue? No one wanted to hear about police brutality back then. I wonder why?

     It would benefit him to do so politically

    Really? Most of the OWS don’t even vote.

    Bye!

  • TKO

    Last time PBO spoke against brutality was a police Occupied a Black Mans house..american people turned on him and told him to SFU..and now u want him to say something?? I don’t think so..take it with your local state officials….Sick of the blaming BS…PBO is the only person working for the 99%..that includes minorities that experience Police Brutality every damn day..You just now waking up to smell the coffee…Really?

  • http://3chicspolitico.com/ SouthernGirl2

    I like how you tell it!  Preach!

  • TKO

    You right…Just like you are not worthy of his intellect and wisdom…When you include folks that knows what;s like to drive while black,housing discrimination, 16% unemployment…Minorities doing time for same crime.. whites get away with just probation or a citation….When cops stop protecting our communities, even though we pay higher taxes…Yet we get arrested just by driving in your hood….Can’t go to a high priced store, unless we there to shoplift..Walk in our shoes….This country was built with the blood and sweat of the street and bridges you so freely walk on today.
    Talk to me about who’s the 99%

  • http://3chicspolitico.com/ SouthernGirl2

    Speak on it!

  • Chris Andersen

    I really don’t like these kind of “protests”, even when they are done against people I opposed. Scott Walker was shouted down by a “mic check” moment a couple of weeks back and frankly, I, a sympathizer with the OWS movement, was rather annoyed by their behavior.

    Would Martin Luther King use this kind of tactic?

  • Chris Andersen

    “I, for one, am absolutely finished playing the “lesser of two evils” game.  That’s not how it’s supposed to work.”

    According to whom?

  • http://www.osborneink.com OsborneInk

    Think of the mic check as refusing to move to the back of the bus.

  • http://www.osborneink.com OsborneInk

    Did you notice that Obama tried to turn it into a conversation?

  • http://www.osborneink.com OsborneInk

    “OWS is adamantly opposed to the military industrial complex and corporate influence in politics, both of which Obama participates in and benefits from”

    That’s it, I understand now. We’re enacting GB Shaw’s Major Barbara

    Presidents are Constitutionally required to maintain a common defense, April, and the industrialization of conflict has been underway since the early 19th Century. I’m not sure what you mean by “benefits from.” You should clarify that.

    Question: as the last American unit leaves Iraq in a few days, and withdrawals accelerate out of Afghanistan, and he threatens to veto any pentagon budget rescue, will Obama become the man who’s ending the wars or will he be the man who didn’t end them quickly enough?

  • http://ethecofem.com April

    I don’t understand your question.  Are you saying that it’s not a problem that we have to choose the lesser of two evils, or that that’s just the way it is?  I disagree with the former, and am opposed to accepting the latter.

    The sentence you quoted from me comes from my frustration that voting for a third party essentially “steals” the vote away from whichever major party candidate is most likely to beat the “more evil” major party candidate.  Being forced to choose between two corporate-owned politicians isn’t the way I envision a just and democratic nation.

  • http://ethecofem.com April

    “Participates in” refers to the military industrial complex, and “benefits from” refers to corporate money and influence.

    I don’t know why you’re explaining to me that a president is required to maintain a national defense– this isn’t exactly a secret, nor would I assume it’s a very contentious issue among most people in our country.  I know this.  How long the industrialization has been in place is irrelevant to the fact that it continues to exist, and that Republicans and Democrats alike continue to perpetuate it.

    I don’t understand the incessant need so many folks have to demonize Republicans for all of this, but let Obama off the hook time and again for the same thing.  And this isn’t even about Obama– surely he’s better than any of the Republican candidates, but I’m not voting for someone just because he’s better than the other crappy candidate.  I’m voting on principles this time around.  

    Obama’s been bearing the brunt of this growing distrust of government and its relationship with corporate America, perhaps unfairly.  I think the reason for this is because all of the young, apathetic folks he brought out to the polls in 2008 really thought he’d be able to bring real change to our country.  When they realized he couldn’t, because he’s just another figurehead in the vast, corrupt machine we live in, they became even more bitter and angry about the system.  It’s not Obama, per se, but rather the establishment that he currently presides over.

  • http://ethecofem.com April

    I’m definitely aware of the absurdity of the white people involved in OWS being ignorant of police brutality being consistently used against people of color, and know this to be an enormous problem.  But I don’t know why that’s how you chose to respond to my comment, since I was talking about the military industrial complex and corporate influence in elections.

  • http://ethecofem.com April

    How do you know most of the OWS participants around the country don’t vote?  I’m really curious how you arrived at this conclusion since, having been directly involved with this movement, I have yet to hear any more than two or three people tell me that they don’t vote.  This is a really weird misconception.

  • http://ethecofem.com April

    I love mic checks.  In a world where our voices aren’t heard by elected officials, they’re not only effective, but necessary.  

    And Martin Luther King, amazing as he was, isn’t the only activist we need to look to for inspiration and direction when it comes to protesting.  

  • http://3chicspolitico.com/ SouthernGirl2

     I have yet to hear any more than two or three people tell me that they don’t vote.

    So what! Do you think your 2 or 3 people trump what I stated? Please! And how do you know OWS participants around the country vote? Did you ask them all?  If they would have voted, republicans wouldn’t be causing harvoc in our political system every single day. They wouldn’t be continually blocking the AJA or opposing the President when he is trying to help the American people and get this country back on track.

  • http://ethecofem.com April

    You still haven’t answered my question.

    Also, how do you know that, had those mysterious and alleged non-voters voted, that they’d have voted for Democrats?

  • http://3chicspolitico.com/ SouthernGirl2

    LOL!

    If they’d have voted for republicans, then why the fk are they protesting? What are they protesting for? You’re not making sense!

  • http://3chicspolitico.com/ SouthernGirl2

    And Martin Luther King, amazing as he was, isn’t the only activist we need to look to for inspiration and direction when it comes to protesting.

    Name one that accomplished what Dr. King and the Civil Rights Movement accomplished?  OWS had one of the best organizers (Congressman John Lewis) of non violent protesting and you refused him to speak. GTFOOH! 

  • http://ethecofem.com April

    “If they’d have voted for republicans…”

    You’ve just proven my point.

    Why do you assume people who don’t vote would have voted for either major party? Perhaps they don’t vote because they’re frustrated with the fact that the only “meaningful” choice they have to make is between two corporate-owned parties, and they refuse to partake in such a sham.
    On Nov 27, 2011 10:50 PM, “Disqus”

  • http://3chicspolitico.com/ SouthernGirl2

    What is your goal? What’s OWS hoping to accomplish?

  • http://ethecofem.com April

    Can’t speak for everyone, but I would like to have a meaningful voice in our political system. One solution I see is ending the marriage between corporate interests and government.

  • http://3chicspolitico.com/ SouthernGirl2

    Can’t speak for everyone

    Hold the phone. That’s the problem right there. You’re not even organized as a group or as one voice. Dr. King & Leaders of the Civil Rights Movement knew what their goal was & what they wanted accomplished. Dr. King led the greatest movement of Civil Rights in the history of America. But as you stated…”Martin Luther King, amazing as he was, isn’t the only activist we need to look to for inspiration and direction when it comes to protesting”. And you turned away an icon of the Civil Rights Movement? The one man who could have shown you how to get it done?  Oh, but it’s a white folks movement, eh?  I see!

    Good Bye!

  • http://ethecofem.com April

    The entire point is that we’re NOT “one voice,” and that we’re NOT like other protests. And stop saying “you” as if I have personally made the decision to not allow certain speakers at ows. I live in MN and haven’t been to NYC’s occupation. I’ve got my local one taking up all my time at the moment.

    Have you even bothered to educate yourself about this movement at all, beyond some snarky questions on a blog? It doesn’t sound like it.

  • http://3chicspolitico.com/ SouthernGirl2

     I live in MN and haven’t been to NYC’s occupation. I’ve got my local one taking up all my time at the moment.

    Then how do you know whether they voted or not? I know enough about OWS to realize it doesn’t include the plight of African Americans in this country.

  • Chris Andersen

    When did Rosa Parks scream?

  • Chris Andersen

    You said, “That’s not how it’s supposed to work.” That statement implies that there is a known statement of how it is supposed to work. Yet I’ve never heard such a statement.

    I don’t like voting strategically for the imperfect but far superior candidate, but quite often that is the only choice given to us by life. The idea that somehow we deserve to get better choices is part of the problem I have with this argument. It’s a hopelessly naive view of life.

    You work to better your choices. But when the time comes to make a choice, you choose the best of what is available. And then you work to make your choices even better the next time around.

  • Chris Andersen

    Good luck with that. Corporations, after all, were creations of the state specifically designed to advance government interests (e.g., The East Indies Trading Company). They have always been connected to each other.

    And that isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

    Really, I’m much more concerned by the exclusion of the poor and middle class from power than I am by the influence of the 1%. I’m perfectly fine with them getting a seat at the table. I just don’t want them to own the table.

  • http://www.osborneink.com OsborneInk

    If the “figurehead” is someone else, things figure different. Imagine a president Rick Perry, or if you don’t want to do that then just think about the years 2001-2008. That “figurehead” matters when it’s time to pick Supreme Court nominees. 

    You’re right that he’s borne an unfair share of criticism. I agree that came with the job, just like, say, nuclear launch-codes. If you succeeded tomorrow in getting Chris Hedges elected president, he would not be allowed to smash the nuclear “football” with a hammer. But if you had a choice of Chris Hedges or Rick Perry, who would you rather give the nuclear codes?

    Thanks for coming by, April!

  • Anonymous

    In other words PBO automagically became EVILEVILEVIL as soon as he was elected.

    BTW, if he’s borne an “unfair” amount of the criticism, maybe you shouldn’t be contributing to that unfair amount. And if you say you don’t, you’re simply lying like the rest of the hair-on-fire honkies that call themselves the progressive base. (Here’s some math – I know it’s hard for people like yourself but bear with me- only 42% of the Progressive Caucus is white. 97% of OWS is white.)

  • http://ethecofem.com April

    I don’t call myself the progressive base.  I don’t know why you would make such weird assumptions about people you’ve never met.  What in the hell do I care how many of the Progressive Caucus is white?  What the hell does the progressive caucus have to do with OWS?  Why are you assuming OWS and THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT’S PARTICIPATING IN THIS MASSIVE MOVEMENT, is based on some kind of white, middle-class American “progressive” philosophy?  

    These conversations are going nowhere.  Peace.

  • http://3chicspolitico.com/ SouthernGirl2

    Why are you assuming OWS and THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT’S PARTICIPATING IN THIS MASSIVE MOVEMENT, is based on some kind of white, middle-class American “progressive” philosophy?

    Ummm…Hello!